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Resin Addict Forum • View topic - WiP, Hive Tyrant wings.
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WiP, Hive Tyrant wings.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:21 pm
by BlackCatStudios
I am working on a set of Tyranid Hive Tyrant wings. Check out the photos and let me know what you think.

I want your opinions on which way to set the talon on the elbow of the forearm.

Reference pic: Trygon Lg scything talon.
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Option 1 same orientation as the Trygon.
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Option 2 reversed to match the orientation of the scything talon.
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Re: Design feedback wanted, Hive Tyrant wings.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:25 am
by Vaaish
option two seems to fit better, but you really don't have much to reference there to know how well it will work together in the end. If you have sketches of the direction you want to go it would help.

Re: Design feedback wanted, Hive Tyrant wings.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:32 am
by Lane
Option two.

I assume the wing will continue from the elbow spike to the torso. If so then option two keeps the flow of the model in one direction.

Re: Design feedback wanted, Hive Tyrant wings.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:42 am
by mangozac
Yeah my vote goes to option 2 also. And I really like Lane's suggestion!

Re: Design feedback wanted, Hive Tyrant wings.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:48 pm
by Lane
The thumb claw looks a bit out of place.

The scything talon is modeled as a weapon held in a hand, thus the thumb claw looks right sticking out the opposite direction from the blade.

The blade forming the outer edge of the wing appears to be a modified hand. Where you have the thumb placed it looks tike it would be growing out of the wrist. It may look better moving it outward and curve slightly back.

Re: Design feedback wanted, Hive Tyrant wings.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:13 pm
by Arkangel
A mate of mine used the plastic Balrog wings from LOTR they looked mighty impressive if this helps with the final sculp. As for 'orientation' option TWO defo has my vote :mrgreen: *Thumbs*

Hasta

Re: Design feedback wanted, Hive Tyrant wings.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:06 pm
by BlackCatStudios
OK so everyone has posted option 2 which was my thoughts. The talon an the trygon arm was what was throwing me off. I have a conversion using Balrog wings that is ok, but I really want a set of wings that look tyranid. Like the Forge world warrior wings. Once I get these sculpted and cast I plan on doing a conversion that has biocannons like the harridan kit has.

Re: WiP, Hive Tyrant wings.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:25 am
by BlackCatStudios
Update Time.

Basic skeletal structure done
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Top down dry fit pic
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Comparison with my Balrog wing convert.
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Re: WiP, Hive Tyrant wings.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:36 am
by BlackCatStudios
Update and Questions;

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First layer of Green Stuff has been applied to the top of the wing, I used heavy paper to make the base of the webbing then soaked it with super glue to add strength. The GS has been textured using wet sand-able sand paper being pressed into the GS to leave a rough even texture.

I realized that this is the largest GS project I have ever done. I have used GS often to fill gaps and reconstruct small missing details, but nothing of this scope.

On this side I still need to re-work the talon on the elbow, the inner arm webbing, and the attaching tendons to the finger bones.

As always feedback and tips are appreciated.

Re: WiP, Hive Tyrant wings.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:12 pm
by mangozac
Looks good, but I'm not sold on the texture of the webbing - I just imagine it should be smooth. I do like the bat wing design though! The problem with doing wings is that you can't make it too thin or you'll have issues casting it.

Where are the base arm parts from? You didn't sculpt them right? They don't look like styrene so I'm guessing they're either resin or pro-create?

Also, the areas where the webbing joins the arm needs a lot of cleaning up...

Re: WiP, Hive Tyrant wings.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:45 pm
by BlackCatStudios
The arms were from this beastie.Image

I figured out that doing green stuff right means taking time and doing it in steps instead of trying to get that one last detail on. I am not sold yet either way on the smooth or textured wing skin. The webbing is definitely on the check list.

Re: WiP, Hive Tyrant wings.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:21 pm
by Arkangel
I'm going to have to agree with Zac on the smooth webbing. Do you have access to a copy of Imperial Armour 4: Anphellion project? There are lots of winged tyranid stuff in there plus some good sketches if I remember I have a copy so i could have a look if you like? You can find a copy in lots of places on the net if you look in the 'right' places :mrgreen:

Re: WiP, Hive Tyrant wings.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:42 pm
by mangozac
Actually, for an interesting wing membrane effect have a look at the .

Re: WiP, Hive Tyrant wings.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:44 am
by BlackCatStudios
I have the harridan sitting on my work table right now, That is what I had been planning on trying to achieve.

Re: WiP, Hive Tyrant wings.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:41 am
by mangozac
Well in that case I look forward to seeing further progress!